I went to the link, and even looked around for a while to try to get the context of what this drawing was trying to communicate. Based on the general direction of Naked Pastors’ website, I think it’s pretty obvious that this is an attempt to roll up into one and skewer all the WRONG (both from within and without the church) stereotypes of what a Christian is like.
Surely, Mr. Lobdell, you realized this, didn’t you?
Just saying this comes from a Christian Pastor to defend it seems no better than the non-answer you got from Tod Tamberg. What do you think the pastors’ intent was? Do you think this was intended as a positive description? If not, why did you post it? If you think it’s a positive description, what do you base this on? What is your foundation? In your reading of the Bible, is this what a Christian comes out to be? If so, please site the relevant passages, because I haven’t come across them yet.
I think I’m starting to rant, and I apologize. But, this is important stuff. If the God of the Bible is real and true, then being a follower of that God must ultimately be a reasonable thing. That characature by Naked Pastor is not reasonable, so it should not be portrayed as a real and true follower, and the amount and reason for it’s veering from real and true is important.
I was offended. Whoever Naked Pastor is or isn’t — it doesn’t make a difference. Insert “Jew” or “Muslim” or “Atheist” or “Vegan” or “Kids Today” (or anyone) into that title and you’d have never embraced it or thought it was remotely funny.
I am also offended when lifelong pedophiles and their defenders claim they are Christian.
They are not.
I don’t have a problem with your book bringing to light these criminals, and focusing on these frauds. But somehow you leaped to a position that ALL Christians, even the true ones who are your fellow human beings, neighbors and friends (and exponentially greater in number than the creeps, whom are the teeny fraction of the overall Christian community) are deserving of these blatant insults.
We can talk more later - I have to run, but I am observing my dear friend, you, Bill, slip into something well, I’m not sure how to label it, but it is just not the real you and there doesn’t appear to be much goodness or heart in it.
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4 responses so far ↓
1 Jenny // Feb 9, 2009 at 11:01 am
“Small head for not much brain?”
“Big hole where your heart used to be?”
Gosh, your new friends have you adopting such kindness, objectivity, maturity and tolerance.
How hilarious. So this is why it feels good to be an atheist?
You lost your religion - so would I where you were looking - it had nothing to do with God - but this is what you found? are you pleased?
2 williamlobdell // Feb 9, 2009 at 11:34 am
jenny, this was done by a christan pastor. here his post here. http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2709
3 ProfessorSteve // Feb 9, 2009 at 1:36 pm
I went to the link, and even looked around for a while to try to get the context of what this drawing was trying to communicate. Based on the general direction of Naked Pastors’ website, I think it’s pretty obvious that this is an attempt to roll up into one and skewer all the WRONG (both from within and without the church) stereotypes of what a Christian is like.
Surely, Mr. Lobdell, you realized this, didn’t you?
Just saying this comes from a Christian Pastor to defend it seems no better than the non-answer you got from Tod Tamberg. What do you think the pastors’ intent was? Do you think this was intended as a positive description? If not, why did you post it? If you think it’s a positive description, what do you base this on? What is your foundation? In your reading of the Bible, is this what a Christian comes out to be? If so, please site the relevant passages, because I haven’t come across them yet.
I think I’m starting to rant, and I apologize. But, this is important stuff. If the God of the Bible is real and true, then being a follower of that God must ultimately be a reasonable thing. That characature by Naked Pastor is not reasonable, so it should not be portrayed as a real and true follower, and the amount and reason for it’s veering from real and true is important.
Thanks for letting me rant, and hearing me out.
4 Jenny // Feb 9, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I was offended. Whoever Naked Pastor is or isn’t — it doesn’t make a difference. Insert “Jew” or “Muslim” or “Atheist” or “Vegan” or “Kids Today” (or anyone) into that title and you’d have never embraced it or thought it was remotely funny.
I am also offended when lifelong pedophiles and their defenders claim they are Christian.
They are not.
I don’t have a problem with your book bringing to light these criminals, and focusing on these frauds. But somehow you leaped to a position that ALL Christians, even the true ones who are your fellow human beings, neighbors and friends (and exponentially greater in number than the creeps, whom are the teeny fraction of the overall Christian community) are deserving of these blatant insults.
We can talk more later - I have to run, but I am observing my dear friend, you, Bill, slip into something well, I’m not sure how to label it, but it is just not the real you and there doesn’t appear to be much goodness or heart in it.
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