Comments on: The perfect Christian body

By: ProfessorSteve

ProfessorSteve — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:03:15 +0000

Point taken.

By: williamlobdell

williamlobdell — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:56:00 +0000

last comment, i promise this time: ProfessorSteve: i didn’t think i needed to spell it out.

By: ProfessorSteve

ProfessorSteve — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 00:11:22 +0000

Mr. Lobdell, I agree with you.

One question, though: why didn’t you give some indication of this at the outset? You could have put something like “good to see some voices from within the church not satisfied with the status quo” and this whole dialog would have been seriously truncated.

By: williamlobdell

williamlobdell — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:35:24 +0000

one last comment. this is from a pastor who is making fun of the stereotypes that people have of fundamental christians. in other words, he’s making fun of the people who stereotype christians (i.e., christian bigots). at least that’s how i saw it.

By: Jenny

Jenny — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:22:02 +0000

On his website he states one of the missions of his church’s mission below:

TO BE LIKE JESUS
As men and women together, embracing Christ’s example of servant leadership, seeking to exhibit humility, honesty, graciousness and integrity while also exercising his works of power, healing the sick, releasing the oppressed and bringing God’s provision to the poor.

So in the cartoon he “was trying to be funny”? I think he’s missing his mark on his mission.

Blatant, general insults like this I consider mean. I don’t care who it’s coming from or to whom it’s directed.

Only toward Christians is this sort of bigotry not only tolerated, but encouraged. Sorry, but you can’t talk me out of it. I think it’s just wrong, and it doesn’t give an accurate depiction of the VAST majority of Christians.

By: williamlobdell

williamlobdell — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:30:40 +0000

jenny, i think the pastor was trying to be funny. really.

By: Tim Stroud

Tim Stroud — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:44:36 +0000

An offensive Christian pastor? A Christian pastor who offends Christians?

That Christian pastor gives ammuntion to those opposed to the religious status quo.

Thank you, sir. You make it all that much easier for anti-religionists to make their arguments. (maybe not what you intended)

And once they get over being offended, it gives Christians food for thought.

By: Jenny

Jenny — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:42:13 +0000

I was offended. Whoever Naked Pastor is or isn’t — it doesn’t make a difference. Insert “Jew” or “Muslim” or “Atheist” or “Vegan” or “Kids Today” (or anyone) into that title and you’d have never embraced it or thought it was remotely funny.
I am also offended when lifelong pedophiles and their defenders claim they are Christian.
They are not.
I don’t have a problem with your book bringing to light these criminals, and focusing on these frauds. But somehow you leaped to a position that ALL Christians, even the true ones who are your fellow human beings, neighbors and friends (and exponentially greater in number than the creeps, whom are the teeny fraction of the overall Christian community) are deserving of these blatant insults.
We can talk more later – I have to run, but I am observing my dear friend, you, Bill, slip into something well, I’m not sure how to label it, but it is just not the real you and there doesn’t appear to be much goodness or heart in it.

By: ProfessorSteve

ProfessorSteve — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:36:36 +0000

I went to the link, and even looked around for a while to try to get the context of what this drawing was trying to communicate. Based on the general direction of Naked Pastors’ website, I think it’s pretty obvious that this is an attempt to roll up into one and skewer all the WRONG (both from within and without the church) stereotypes of what a Christian is like.

Surely, Mr. Lobdell, you realized this, didn’t you?

Just saying this comes from a Christian Pastor to defend it seems no better than the non-answer you got from Tod Tamberg. What do you think the pastors’ intent was? Do you think this was intended as a positive description? If not, why did you post it? If you think it’s a positive description, what do you base this on? What is your foundation? In your reading of the Bible, is this what a Christian comes out to be? If so, please site the relevant passages, because I haven’t come across them yet.

I think I’m starting to rant, and I apologize. But, this is important stuff. If the God of the Bible is real and true, then being a follower of that God must ultimately be a reasonable thing. That characature by Naked Pastor is not reasonable, so it should not be portrayed as a real and true follower, and the amount and reason for it’s veering from real and true is important.

Thanks for letting me rant, and hearing me out.

By: williamlobdell

williamlobdell — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 03:34:23 +0000

jenny, this was done by a christan pastor. here his post here. http://www.nakedpastor.com/archives/2709