Comments on: Which priest is the real sinner?

By: donnie davies

donnie davies — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:17:38 +0000

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By: Albino Luciani

Albino Luciani — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:25:38 +0000

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By: Father Tony

Father Tony — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:30:55 +0000

Dear Debbie Bodkin,
You make a damn fine statement. Not a single inaccuracy and perfect logic. Your ability to appreciate Father Farrow’s integrity rather than simply ask for all the clergy to be lined up and mowed down, given what you went through, is humbling.

I especially agree with the premise that as the administrator, the bishop has deep responsibility for scandal whether it be sexual abuse or heresy.

I don’t know the particulars of the abuse cases that the bishop of Fresno handled, but I am now familiar with the details of Father Farrow’s situation. If this is indeed scandal, as the bishop says it is, let the bishop rend his own garments, let him fast and give alms. Let him surrender his own health coverage. Let the bishop make amends IN EXCESS OF what he has prescribed for Fr. Geoff. Something tells me that ain’t gonna happen.

By: vinnie

vinnie — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:11:44 +0000

The most ludicrous statement on this page is from Steinbock himself when he says,”“Your statement contradicted the teaching of the Catholic Church and has brought scandal to your parish community as well as the whole Church,” Does this man have no sense of self at all, no sense of shame at all, no spark of humanity. How dare he blame another for bringing scandal down upon the church. How can he make such a statement with a straight face?

No single group in church history has brought more scandal down upon individual diocese as well as the global church as have the current crop of heartless hierarchy.

Cold sterile men with reptillian hearts who’ve sent sexually abusing priests out to rape and pillage young children again and again can hardly be said to be in touch with humanity.

If this were not the living truth, it would be a very sick commedy indeed.

By: Kay Goodnow

Kay Goodnow — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:22:53 +0000

Bishop Steinbock is typical of the arrogant attitude of these “men and women of God.” Fact is, this Roman Catholic Church is nothing more than a cult, utilizing the power of brainwashing from birth. They brainwash with fear.

Their leaders purport themselves to be the ultimate arbiters of right and wrong. Instead, they are criminals of the worst kind. How any Catholic can buy into this evil is beyond me.

It took me more than 50 years to undo the programming, but I did it!

By: Albino Luciani

Albino Luciani — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:22:24 +0000

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By: More on ‘bringing scandal to the church’

More on ‘bringing scandal to the church’ — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:59:02 +0000

[...] have a few more thoughts on my recent post about Bishop John Steinbock of Fresno punishing a priest who came out against a California [...]

By: DB

DB — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:33:07 +0000

Re: Freedom of Religion Privilege and Guaranteed Guaranteed Civil Rights

VIA EMAIL & U.S. MAIL
October 14, 2008

Bishop John T. Steinbock
Catholic Diocese of Fresno
1550 N. Fresno Street
Fresno, California 93703-3788

Dear Bishop Steinbock:

As a Catholic wife, mother and advocate on behalf of victims of sex crimes committed by employees of religious institutions, in response to William Lobdell’s “Which priest is the real sinner?” (http://williamlobdell.com/archives/300), I am shocked at your recent public and defaming statements concerning Father Geoffrey Farrow, former pastor at St. Paul Newman Center, for the following reasons:

1. My children were attending Catholic school and church during the time you were assigned to the Diocese of Orange and responsible for protecting all of God’s children. You failed us and you joined the good ‘ol boy network of pedophile protectors and negligent attorneys, placing innocent children and families at serious risk, salvaging the reputation of the Diocese of Orange. Why did you escape public defamation for conspiring with others to break the law and why are you still a Bishop with a reitrement, salary and healthcare benefits? You did not protect my children or the children of thousands of other families. Why?

2. I have personal knowledge there are MANY homosexual priests, school administrators, employees and faithful in the pews, within the Diocese of Orange and other Catholic communities, that were never publicly defamed in the way you spoke about Father Farrow. They are not pedophiles–they never hurt a child and/or would never destroy a family. Why do you choose to protect pedophiles but destroy an ethical and honest priest, Father Farrow? Is it because he spoke the truth as part of his moral obligations as a priest? Is there a SECRET and illegal conspiracy that destroys priests, nuns, employees and the faithful in the pews making a choice to exercise guaranteed freedoms of speech, press and opinion?

Most importantly, I am distraught about the public example you have shown to my children and the children of Catholics and non-Catholics. Believe it or not, there are still many who believe priests live by role modeling Christ’s love and teachings. I am thankful that Father Farrow’s example was shown to children in the midst of the horrific clergy sex abuse crisis that is far from over! You focus on homosexuality while thousands of sex abuse victims suffer in shame and silence. It is obvious your public defamation of Father Farrow was intended to discourage others from participating in speaking truths. Many continue to practice the teachings of the Catholic Church with sincerity in their every day lives, free of retaliation, hate and malicious speech against those expressing a difference of opinion. What is wrong with you?

I pray that your acts of retaliation against Father Farrow do not fall into the patterns and conspiracy of other religious leaders and attorneys, those still believing that freedom of religion is a free pass to sexually abuse another human being and/or destroy an individual’s career for exercising freedoms of speech, press and opinion. We can only hope that children and young adults witnessing the hate radiating from your public statements will never follow your example. The fight against terrorism is consuming the world — religious terrorism only compounds the fear and is a disgrace.

May God bless Father Farrow for speaking truths, refusing to CONCEAL the truths that you and others have conspired to cover-up for decades. By copy of this letter to the recipients below, I am requesting that copies of this letter be provided to Bishops Steinbock and Brown.

Respectfully,
Debby Bodkin
bodkind@hotmail.com

cc: Rev. Msgr. Myron J. Cotta, Catholic Diocese of Fresno, Vicar General,
(msgrmyron@dioceseoffresno.org)

Rev. Jesse Avila, Catholic Diocese of Fresno, Communications Director,
(javila@dioceseoffresno.org)

Diocese of Orange, Attn: Fr. Michael Heher
US Conference of Catholic Bishops

By: Jenny Moore

Jenny Moore — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:14:02 +0000

Agusta Wynn: you are SPOT ON with your comment. These “closeted sexual freaks” are just that. They are NOT godly people – they have nothing to do with Jesus. But they sure can lure people in when they say they are serving in the name of Christ. NO THEY AREN’T!!! But they sure couldn’t have thought of a better “cover”!

And for all the homosexuals out there – you are fine. You are no better or worse than the rest of the people on Earth. You are made perfectly by a loving God, and you deserve the same civil rights as anyone. Love is love.

By: CER

CER — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:33:02 +0000

Somehow the logic of lala Bishop Steinbock eludes me. It is ok, ye even holy, that he and others in the heirarchy of the church protect the evil priests who sexually tortured and violated innocent children. Yet a priest who dares stand up for the rights of consenting adults to live a different lifestyle is reason to be expelled by the same good(?) bishop.
I believe the Bishop shows a lack of morals, a lack of judgement and a lack of leadership qualities. But then he seems to fit right in with the rulling class of the RCC.
Reisz